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7 Aug 2025 Dwarkesh Podcast Artificial meat is harder than artificial intelligence — Lewis Bollard

“The problem is this bill stopping states from regulating farm animal welfare meaningfully could not pass on its own.”

— Lewis Bollard

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Lewis Bollard
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7 Aug 2025
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Dwarkesh Podcast

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…If the majority of House members have written this letter, apparently saying that this should be taken out of the farm bill… They're the people who are going to vote on this. So why is it still going to pass? The problem is this bill stopping states from regulating farm animal welfare meaningfully could not pass on its own. If it were put on the floor of the House and the Senate, it would lose. This is why they're putting it in the farm bill. The farm bill is this huge piece of legislation that includes all the farm subsidies, it includes all the food stamp assistance. This is a bill that is considered a must-pass piece of legislation and is decided based on issues that most politicians consider far bigger than the issue of whether the state laws are wiped out. What the industry is banking on is that once they've got this in the text of the bill, people aren't going to sink the bill over this one provision, and it will sail through even though it's a deeply unpopular policy. I want your guide on how to corrupt the political process in the opposite direction. What insights do you have on how to actually have an impact on how Congress people or state legislatures vote?…

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