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15 Aug 2025 Dwarkesh Podcast China is killing the US on energy. Does that mean they’ll win AGI? — Casey Handmer
“I agree that they've obviously made bad decisions, but even if you have the poorest Chinese people anywhere in the world, they can still be quite rich.”
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- Dwarkesh Patel
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- 15 Aug 2025
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…This technology levels the playing field. It levels the playing field a lot. But at the end of the day, China still contains the poorest Chinese people anywhere on earth. Never underestimate the capacity for an autocratic dictatorship to shoot itself in the foot. I don't know. I agree that they've obviously made bad decisions, but even if you have the poorest Chinese people anywhere in the world, they can still be quite rich. Like Singapore is richer, whatever. Also, there are parts of China which actually contain quite rich Chinese people. You have to compare not all of China against the US, but Shanghai and Guangdong against the United States. You can have a part of China that is as big as America and as wealthy as America and as innovative as America. Like the Indian middle class is larger than the US middle class.…
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