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22 Jun 2025 Lenny's Podcast From ChatGPT to Instagram to Uber: The quiet architect behind the world’s most popular products | Peter Deng
“Everywhere I've gone, I've also been best friends with the recruiters because honestly my whole thing is got to build the right team.”
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- 22 Jun 2025
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- Lenny's Podcast
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…That is a really interesting answer. It's not one I've heard before. Essentially, it's not create the right incentives, it's hire people that naturally see the world in a certain way and that creates a balance and a healthy tension between say a PM and a designer and an engineer. That is really interesting because that feels a lot more sustainable than like, "Here's your goal. But also when your goal is make sure the experience is great and people support tickets are down." It's just like naturally, they need to want this to happen. Totally. Actually, I have a framework around... I think there are five different types of product managers that has held true. This is a framework that just came out of a random jam at Uber when I was talking to some of my colleagues there. We formulated this in terms of helping with hiring practices. Everywhere I've gone, I've also been best friends with the recruiters because honestly my whole thing is got to build the right team. So we have to really partner very deeply. At Uber, we developed these five archetypes of a PM. To this day, I still think it's actually exactly true and it still holds true to this day, but is that interesting? You want me to go into that? Absolutely. I'm so excited to hear what these are.…
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