Evidence receipt / belief
Published · transcript-backedDwarkesh Patel: belief
4 Jun 2024 Dwarkesh Podcast Leopold Aschenbrenner — 2027 AGI, China/US super-intelligence race, & the return of history
“I mean I think about the amount of people who, when they have the opportunity to talk to the person, will just bring up the thing.”
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- Dwarkesh Patel
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- belief
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- 4 Jun 2024
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- Dwarkesh Podcast
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…Maybe it's me being naive and not knowing how big companies work. Sometimes I'm a bit of a speech deontologist. I kind of believe in saying what you think. Sometimes friends tell me I should be more of a speech consequentialist. I mean I think about the amount of people who, when they have the opportunity to talk to the person, will just bring up the thing. I've been with you in multiple contexts. I guess I shouldn't reveal who the person is or what the context was. I've just been very impressed that the dinner begins and by the end, somebody who has a major voice in how things go is seriously thinking about a worldview they would have found incredibly alien before the dinner. I've been impressed that you just give them the spiel and hassle them. I just feel this stuff pretty viscerally now. There was a time when I thought about this stuff a lot, but it was kind of like econ models and these theoretical abstractions. You talk about human brain size or whatever. Since at least last year, I feel like I can see it. I feel it. I can sort of see the cluster that AGI can be trained on. I can see the kind of rough combination of algorithms and the people that will be involved and how this is going to play out. Look, we'll see how it plays out. There are many ways this could be wrong. There are many ways it could go, but this could get very real.…
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