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Ben Gilbert: belief

27 Jan 2025 Acquired TSMC Founder Morris Chang

“Phase one was open, which I think is a quarter of the building, but then there are three other phases for this two-nanometer facility that are not even ready for primetime yet.”

— Ben Gilbert

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Ben Gilbert
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belief
Recorded
27 Jan 2025
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Acquired

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…Yeah. It worked. And the scale too. We drove by a construction site where it looked like a quarter of the building was done. This is where they’re making the two-nanometer process, which presumably will be in the next iPhone. It’s not like anyone said anything about that, but geez. I wonder after five-nanometer and N3E and N3P, when they have this two-nanometer process, I wonder what they’re going to make on that? Lots of NVIDIA GPUs and lots of iPhone chips. Massive building. Phase one was open, which I think is a quarter of the building, but then there are three other phases for this two-nanometer facility that are not even ready for primetime yet. I think they’re actually doing the small production runs, getting ready to ramp in the second half of this year on the two-nanometer process. Like you said, the scale of the physical buildings of these fabs smacked me in the face. I felt like I was looking at a sphinx in Egypt. It’s huge. It’s many football fields of size, just per phase of the fab. These are enormous buildings.…

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