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Max Schoening: uncertainty

3 May 2026 Lenny's Podcast Why cultivating agency matters more than cultivating skills in the AI era | Max Schoening (Head of Product, Notion)

“I don't even want to put numbers in, but thousands for sure, but maybe tens of thousands. I don't know.”

— Max Schoening

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Max Schoening
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uncertainty
Recorded
3 May 2026
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

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…Okay. It's just a lot. And then- That is just the ... I would assume they pale in comparison to the folks at OpenAI and Anthropic just by the nature of the work they do and so on. But it is definitely for an individual in the ... I don't even want to put numbers in, but thousands for sure, but maybe tens of thousands. I don't know. It depends. Yeah. I think just the fact that you're as head of product are not on top of that means that it's just, let's not worry about this. Let's just see what we can do and then in six months, as you said, we'll figure out if this is ROI positive.…

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