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Garrett Lord: belief

24 Aug 2025 Lenny's Podcast Inside the expert network training every frontier AI model | Garrett Lord (Handshake CEO)

“I think if you care about building a really high quality business, and having good gross margin and high quality growth, the ecosystem here is, one of the leading players, they have 200 recruiters.”

— Garrett Lord

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Garrett Lord
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belief
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24 Aug 2025
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Lenny's Podcast

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…There's actually two threads here I want to follow, I'm going to follow the second one first, this idea of where this data labeling work can come from. This isn't a really clear, simple, understandable one, which is just experts sitting there creating data. Another one that I know a lot of other companies in this space use Scale, I know especially with just like low-cost labor internationally. Are there other methods for doing this that isn't one of those two? How are other companies doing this? I think if you care about building a really high quality business, and having good gross margin and high quality growth, the ecosystem here is, one of the leading players, they have 200 recruiters. It's unsustainable. There are like 200 people on LinkedIn sending individual messages to acquire these people, because there's no brand, there's no trust. They're spending tens of millions of dollars a month on performance advertising, Google Ads- To find experts and to find folks.…

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