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John Collison: belief

5 Feb 2026 Dwarkesh Podcast Elon Musk — "In 36 months, the cheapest place to put AI will be space”

“Whereas actually, I think when you look at it, Tesla’s had a very consistent and internally promoted executive bench over the past few years.”

— John Collison

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Speaker
John Collison
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Claim type
belief
Recorded
5 Feb 2026
Publisher
Dwarkesh Podcast

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…Generally what I tell people—I tell myself, I guess, aspirationally—is, don’t look at the resume. Just believe your interaction. The resume may seem very impressive and it’s like, “Wow, the resume looks good.” But if the conversation after 20 minutes is not “wow,” you should believe the conversation, not the paper. I feel like part of your method is that… There was this meme in the media a few years back about Tesla being a revolving door of executive talent. Whereas actually, I think when you look at it, Tesla’s had a very consistent and internally promoted executive bench over the past few years. Then at SpaceX, you have all these folks like Mark Juncosa and Steve Davis— Steve Davis runs The Boring Company these days.…

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