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Ivan Zhao: belief

6 Mar 2025 Lenny's Podcast Notion’s lost years, its near collapse during Covid, staying small to move fast, the joy and suffering of building horizontal, more | Ivan Zhao (CEO and co-founder)

“Yeah, because of the way how we just hire someone in the office as a dog. Then I think we post on Twitter or something.”

— Ivan Zhao

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Speaker
Ivan Zhao
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Claim type
belief
Recorded
6 Mar 2025
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

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…And the dog treats were trying to... It was like a gift to be like, "Hey, you should talk to us. We're sending this fun gift." Yeah, because of the way how we just hire someone in the office as a dog. Then I think we post on Twitter or something. And I said, "Why did this show up to our office?" Someone really hustled into where we are in our office address and follow us on Twitter. Did you end up taking their money?…

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