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Chris Miller: belief

10 Aug 2023 Lenny's Podcast Relentless curiosity, radical accountability, and HubSpot’s winning growth formula | Christopher Miller (VP of Product, Growth and AI)

“The time that they donated to me, the time that they volunteered to me and for me, calling them mentors, I think sells what they were very short.”

— Chris Miller

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Chris Miller
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belief
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10 Aug 2023
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Lenny's Podcast

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…Absolutely. I want to shift talking about HubSpot the business, but one more last thing I wanted to highlight from what you just shared, which is a really good insight is you shared that your biggest inflection in your career was a manager, Fareed in this case, who helped you learn the craft and develop your skills, and that's the exact experience I had too. Just one specific manager changed everything for me. And that feels like a recurring theme to a lot of people, just having one person that really spends the time to help you learn and correct you when you're making mistakes and all that. So, if folks are wondering maybe why am I not learning enough or why is my care stagnating? See if you can just find... Easier said than done, but oftentimes it just takes one person to change everything. It gets into sort of a conversation about the difference between a manager and a mentor, versus a sponsor and an advocate. Mentors are great, don't get me wrong. I have a ton of people that I would consider to be mentors, but when I think about the people in my life, who... The time that they donated to me, the time that they volunteered to me and for me, calling them mentors, I think sells what they were very short. And I would actually describe those folks as being sponsors and advocates, people who were willing to put up capital, whether that's professional, social capital to bet on you. I mean, truth be told, when I interviewed with Fareed that first time, I think back to the interview and I think I bombed it. I actually don't think I would've hired me back then. And I remember the answers I gave to some of those questions, and I think they were good, but I don't think they were certainly great. And I imagine that there was something in there where the decision maker, who was Fareed said, "I think I can make something out of this." And I think being willing to invest in someone and finding people who are willing to invest in you is what really matters. And finding people who are willing to, again, put something up for you, whether that be whatever kind of capital it is. When I think about true gasoline on the career fire, it's finding mentors, but it's also finding sponsors and advocates. Is there anything that you think you did right to help find mentors and sponsors and advocates for people that are thinking about, "Hey, I need this. How do I help myself in the same way?" Is there something you did that helped people get excited to help you?…

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