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24 Jun 2025 Machine Learning Street Talk Three Red Lines We're About to Cross Toward AGI (Daniel Kokotajlo, Gary Marcus, Dan Hendrycks)

“I think that eventually we want to build AI because it is possible to get it right.”

— Daniel Kokotajlo

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Daniel Kokotajlo
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24 Jun 2025
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Machine Learning Street Talk

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…The common things that we care about are what is going to be the outcome when AGI comes, how soon is it going to come, how do we forecast these things methodologically. 1 person wrote in a question that maybe we could actually start which is like what is the positive view? Like I take it that all 3 of us in the room are united in thinking we think AGI could be a good thing. None of us is sort of like standing, you know, down like people would in in front of the, construction machine saying, stop it all period. I think we all think there's at least a possibility of a positive outcome, but you can stop me if I'm wrong. And that we're hoping to steer towards that positive outcome. So our first question is what could be the upside here, and why aren't you just saying, let's just forget about AI all altogether? You wanna start with that? Yeah. So so first of all, I actually think it's quite reasonable to basically stand in front of the bulldozer and say stop. I think that eventually we want to build AI because it is possible to get it right. And it is possible to make it in such a way that's beneficial to everyone and massively beneficial to everyone, in fact. But if we are currently not on a track to getting it right and we're currently on a track to make it in a way that's going to be horrible, then it makes sense to just sort of stop until we figure out a better way. But yeah, as for what the benefits could look like, well, AI 2027 has the slowdown ending in which things go really well for almost everybody. And Since since not everybody That's it. Read I think more people probably read the, darker scenario than the positive scenario. Lay out for people who might not have read the positive scenario a little bit about what the spirit of that is.…

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