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1 Jan 2026 Lenny's Podcast We replaced our sales team with 20 AI agents—here’s what happened | Jason Lemkin (SaaStr)
“I mean, AI has led to some layoffs, but even though most of the ones we read, it's just a justification to do layoffs.”
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- 1 Jan 2026
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- Lenny's Podcast
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…I love that in your case and in Jean's case at Vercel, it's not like you let anyone go. In your case, the SDRs quit. And in her case, she moved them from, I believe, from inbound to outbound or outbound to inbound. She just reshuffled them to do to have higher impact somewhere else. I think that's a really important point. This is another thing that I think the media creates too much drama on. I mean, AI has led to some layoffs, but even though most of the ones we read, it's just a justification to do layoffs. It's just a reason to blame it on it. What's a much bigger issue is that people just won't be backfilled with humans. We will use AI to backfill. That's what we did. We didn't fire. I've never fired anyone my whole career other than for inappropriate conduct a few times that you fired today for that stuff. But pretty much I've never fired anyone that didn't do something inappropriate. When they go, this time we just said, now it's the agents, right? And so, that's a much bigger force of nature than some random layoffs, which probably aren't really new to AI, right? It's probably not because you brought in 20 agents in 2025. It's probably because you just want to downsize anyway, and this is the excuse. So, it's probably less of a threat to you than you think AI. But what it does mean is if you don't want to embrace it, Lenny, maybe don't leave your current job. Yeah. I was just going to say...…
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