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Shawn Wang: belief

14 Sept 2023 Latent Space Doing it the Hard Way: Making the AI engine and language ๐Ÿ”ฅ of the future โ€” with Chris Lattner of Modular

โ€œWhy a company and not a foundation? I think you kind of answered that with the modular first.โ€

โ€” Shawn Wang

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Shawn Wang
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belief
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14 Sept 2023
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Latent Space

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โ€ฆYeah, exactly. I mean, again, first principle learning something, it's not like, you know, multi-cores of the future anymore, right? Yeah, yeah. One thing you're doing differently than beyond, in terms of, you know, C, C++, and then, you know, Python, Python++, is that you're choosing to build this as a company. Why a company and not a foundation? I think you kind of answered that with the modular first. Yeah, so we didn't start modular to build Mojo. We started modular to solve some AI problems, and then said, okay, well, we need to do a language. So I'll reinterpret your question, if it's okay, as saying, why is modular an independent company instead of part of a big tech? Apple or Google or Microsoft or whatever. So there's a number of reasons. Well, so first of all, I'll say, we tried. We collectively, I'll speak on behalf of all of our, the people on our team. Many of us came from big tech. Yeah. Like I worked at Google. I worked on ML infrastructure at Google, right? Literally working on this problem. And many of our people came out of this context. And the challenge, again, these companies are amazing, right? This isn't to bag on big tech. The challenge is, AI infra is not their product, right? So when I was working on XLA for TPUs, when I was working on XLA, it was to enable TPUs. It wasn't some abstract, let's go solve programming model and hardware and this big problem. It was literally enable this hardware because we just installed exaflops of it, and we needed to get to go and work, right? When you look at what is TensorFlow, it's, by the way, part of the cloud organization within Google. So if you want help with TensorFlow, sign up for GCP, and then they can help you, right? What is their product? Then Meta, right? I mean, what are they trying to solve? Well, they're trying to solve their ad stuff.โ€ฆ

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