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25 Nov 2024 Conversations with Tyler Russ Roberts on Vasily Grossman's Life and Fate

“I think of the man of system, the Adam Smith quote from The Theory of Moral Sentiments, this idea that if you have a view of the world that you want to impose on the chessboard of the human experience, you’re going to do some bad things.”

— Russ Roberts

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Russ Roberts
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25 Nov 2024
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Conversations with Tyler

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…He’s saying fascism doesn’t go away. It comes back in many forms. There are always forces that could enslave or destroy mankind, and he worried — I’m speculating here — about his own regime’s embrace of the AI program. So, he’s like an early Eliezer. [laughs] Or a worrier about technology. I think his worries about the analogy he’s making there between fascism and technology, that they enslave us — I don’t think they enslave us the way our phones enslave us, but they have the potential to be a system. I think of the man of system, the Adam Smith quote from The Theory of Moral Sentiments, this idea that if you have a view of the world that you want to impose on the chessboard of the human experience, you’re going to do some bad things. I take it to be in that spirit. Note also the middle paragraph, where he’s talking about humans. He cites, first, childhood memories, and a bit later on, a mother’s tenderness, thoughts of death. The main themes of the novel are being echoed by this interlude, where he is contrasting humans to the machine. The machine, for him, eventually becomes all-powerful. It becomes a kind of god and can create humans in its image that are in a way superior, and I think he’s terrified by this.…

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