Tanguy Crusson: evaluation

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…I love that. And you said you had one more lesson from this experience. Yeah, the last one, startups have the benefit of starving. Right? We're a big company, we can throw a lot of resources at something that we're excited about. So this notion of we rebuild the HipChat, was coupled with we rebuild the HipChat and we'll do this on a new platform, which is microservices and everything that we built can be reused across all the other products. So the chat text box that you've got, it's an editor that can be open full screen and it's a Confluence editor with everything that you can do there. It's built as a platform component, which is amazing when the platform is there when you start building the product. Where it's really difficult is when you try to do the two at the same time. So I think that part, if I were to work on HipChat again and say I was leading that thing, that's the part I would go, okay, we need to win the problem space first, and if the platform is there, let's use it. If it's not there, we'll hack it, test it, iterate on it with customers, and then whatever is good there, let's platformize it later. But that's where you see what makes us super powerful as a bigger company, can also slow us down and make us focus on the wrong assumptions. So in that case, I think we thought we will win. Interestingly, I think we were convinced that we had a great shot at this market. And at the same time we thought that we could tackle the rewrite and we could tackle the platformization. All these things were necessary, but all of them at the same time was probably a bit too much to bite. Now I'm saying that, but today the editor you see in Confluence started with what we did in HipChat back then. So I would say that in terms of code, purely in terms of code, 70% of what we wrote for HipChat is probably still in the Atlassian platform today. But for a new bet, local Optima, that was really bad. Yeah. Just thinking about the fact that Atlassian could have had this $30 billion business if this worked out, and I could see why people would be frustrated that it didn't work out. So thank you for sharing that story. Let's talk about Statuspage, another journey that you were a part of, that also didn't quite work out the way folks had hoped. Our therapy session continues. Talk about what that product was and what happened there.…

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