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24 Jun 2025 Machine Learning Street Talk Three Red Lines We're About to Cross Toward AGI (Daniel Kokotajlo, Gary Marcus, Dan Hendrycks)

“Then we have the whole I don't know if we have time to go into it, but maybe we will, maybe won't the mechanisms of open sourcing or at least open weight models, which means that essentially anybody can get in this game to some degree.”

— Gary Marcus

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Gary Marcus
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24 Jun 2025
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Machine Learning Street Talk

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…to your question, realized I never actually answered why this ties into your question. So early on, when these companies were fresh and young and idealistic, their founding mythology was basically, yes, the risks are real, and that's why you should come work at our company, because we're the good guys. And so when that was still fresh and still like, you know, the main thing they were saying, they were talking about it a lot. But then now, when their their sort of like founding myth is sort of like, kinda laughable, and it's like very much not something they can say with a straight face. It's it's eroded some. It's not something they can really say with a straight face so much anymore. And also, there are lots of under lots of political pressure, you know, to get investors and to ward off regulation and stuff like that. So so the rationalization wheels are continuing to turn, they're coming up with new narratives to justify what they're doing. You know? And there's also a lot more players at the table, both within The US industry, which is most of what we're talking about, but also in China. Then we have the whole I don't know if we have time to go into it, but maybe we will, maybe won't the mechanisms of open sourcing or at least open weight models, which means that essentially anybody can get in this game to some degree. I disagree with that to some Oh, go ahead. I mean, to some degree, sure.…

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