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Tim Scarfe: belief

27 Sept 2025 Machine Learning Street Talk New top score on ARC-AGI-2-pub (29.4%) - Jeremy Berman

“I I would say intelligence is the efficiency that you can acquire the tree, and reasoning is building the tree.”

— Tim Scarfe

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Tim Scarfe
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belief
Recorded
27 Sept 2025
Publisher
Machine Learning Street Talk

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…Yes. Yes. I I'm for the record, I would define understanding as being able to I mean, I think understanding the spectrum, I think on 1 end, it's memorization, and then which is 0, understanding. And then on the other end, it's ability to deduce and, and also to deduce correctly. I agree with what you said. It's not enough to just, you know, have the right proof. It's you actually have to have, got you know, understood the tree. And that is like that this is understanding, and then intelligence is just how many things you understand. And so it's really just how how how wide and and high is your garden of trees. Yeah. We're we're pretty similar. I I would say intelligence is the efficiency that you can acquire the tree, and reasoning is building the tree. Discursive reasoning is executing the tree, and and and understanding is simply just possession of the tree. So intelligence to you is the speed at which you can build the tree, not how many trees you have. Yeah. Or not how large your tree is.…

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