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Gary Marcus: belief

24 Jun 2025 Machine Learning Street Talk Three Red Lines We're About to Cross Toward AGI (Daniel Kokotajlo, Gary Marcus, Dan Hendrycks)

“I I think that that requires an understanding of the problem, what humans want solved by the problem.”

— Gary Marcus

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Gary Marcus
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belief
Recorded
24 Jun 2025
Publisher
Machine Learning Street Talk

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…Well, mean top. I mean top. Top software engineer, I don't think we're close. I I think that that requires an understanding of the problem, what humans want solved by the problem. It under requires a deep understanding of various domains. I just don't think that we're that close to that. So I I do think these things will continue to improve regularly. We will get more and more value out of them. They will improve programmer productivity with some asterisks around how secure is the code, how maintainable is the code, etcetera. But I don't think that they're gonna replace the best coders. You're not gonna get a machine that is Jeff Dean anytime in the next decade. Like, I will I will be really surprised if you get a Jeff Dean level coder. Right? You probably know, you know, some of the stories that that the Chuck Norris story, they aren't really true. But, you know, he was able to look at problems that nobody had seen before about the distribution of, you know, these searches and coming up with advertisements over, you know, enormous scale that nobody had ever done before and pretty rapidly prototype and then make, you know, maybe with some help, some production level solutions. So take Jeff Dean as kind of, you know, our our example. He deserves to be our example in this. I don't see Jeff Dean coming out of these systems soon. I just don't. Cool.…

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