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Andy Johns: belief

10 Sept 2023 Lenny's Podcast When enough is enough | Andy Johns (ex-FB, Twitter, Quora)

“My general sense is it's definitely less than 1% of the population, and I suspect that's just the way things are.”

— Andy Johns

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Speaker
Andy Johns
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Claim type
belief
Recorded
10 Sept 2023
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

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…People who are listening to this say they're a VP of Product and they're like, "I don't want to become a spiritual teacher. I want to stay on this path. I want to have a successful career. I want to continue to make a bunch of money." How often do you find there's a path to stay on that path with a rejiggering of how you see the world or does it, if you're suffering enough, does it almost always lead to something completely different in your experience? Again, it's a spectrum. What I've experienced is that the vast majority of people who feel some tug to undergo a process of change, I'd say 90%, 95% of the time pretty confidently I can say that those changes are more of the micro transitions. It's, "Okay. Let me change my job. Let me downsize my house. Let me break up with my partner." Still hard things, and for them, that may be all that is needed and necessary. There's no moral judgment on my side about everyone's got to dive into the deep end. That's certainly not the case, and I'm not advocating for it. I honestly don't even know if it's a choice. There's a part of me that, based on some of the experiences I've had, believes that it was somewhat preordained and that this was going to happen for me, but it's in the minority of cases where the radical transformation of one's sense of identity takes place. It's not common. My general sense is it's definitely less than 1% of the population, and I suspect that's just the way things are. One of those ends up being Buddha, and one of those ends up being Andy Johns.…

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