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Published · transcript-backedMax Schoening: evaluation
3 May 2026 Lenny's Podcast Why cultivating agency matters more than cultivating skills in the AI era | Max Schoening (Head of Product, Notion)
“The analogy I like to give is a retina display, which is after I can't see the pixels, I can't see the pixels.”
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- 3 May 2026
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…[inaudible 00:31:52] ... very quickly run up a bill of $3,000 a day. But the speed of inference really changes things. If the inference is slow, then you're queuing up a bunch of jobs and then you're walking around the building thinking about other things and then come back and review. Versus if it's nearly instant, are you still going to do this? Is this multitasking the frenetic thing that we currently have going on actually the thing that gives us flow state? Well, no. But if the inference becomes instant, do we get back to direct manipulation? Do you instantly mold the clay that is the code? I don't know. I think it depends on model capabilities, which is do people ... Is there a saturation on intelligence or not? The analogy I like to give is a retina display, which is after I can't see the pixels, I can't see the pixels. I don't need you to make them smaller. Is it not the same for a lot of cognitive tasks, which is at some sort of level of intelligence? I don't need more and instead I want a different modality and faster. So I don't know. Those things I'm excited about. Interesting. So the last point you're making is it's like smarter models will not significantly impact how teams operate because they've gotten so good and it's other blockers now like UX essentially.…
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