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Serhii Plokhy: belief

4 Mar 2024 Lex Fridman Podcast #415 – Serhii Plokhy: History of Ukraine, Russia, Soviet Union, KGB, Nazis & War

“I think again, that would be a very, very natural thing for any human being to do to make it easier.”

— Serhii Plokhy

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Speaker
Serhii Plokhy
Attribution
Verified speaker
Claim type
belief
Recorded
4 Mar 2024
Publisher
Lex Fridman Podcast

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…Do you think there’s a degree during wartime that the power that comes with being a war president can corrupt the person, sort of push you away from the democratic mindset towards an authoritarian one? I think that there is a possibility of that, right? In the conditions of any emergency, a war, in the case of the Soviet Union, there was a Chernobyl disaster and so on and so forth, you make decisions much faster. You create this vertical and then it’s very easy to get really used to that way dealing with the conditions of emergency. And in continuing emergency or with no emergency, they’re continuing the emergency mode. I think again, that would be a very, very natural thing for any human being to do to make it easier. Should I do that easier and in more effective way, or should I do the right way? That’s the challenge. Sometimes it’s difficult to answer this question. Let me stay in power for just a little longer to do it the efficient way, and then time flies away and all of a sudden you’re going for the third term and the fourth term.…

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