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George Church: belief

26 Jun 2025 Dwarkesh Podcast A billion years of evolution in a single afternoon — George Church

“I think right now, the baby step, or actually the pretty big baby step, is to eliminate diseases or at least make it possible for people to eliminate their own diseases as they see fit.”

— George Church

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Speaker
George Church
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Claim type
belief
Recorded
26 Jun 2025
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Dwarkesh Podcast

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…But you're working on that, right? No, but the same thing is that there may be certain things that don't take a lot of people. We just don't know. We don't have that much experience with having thousands of Einstein-type levels of creativity and intelligence simultaneously in a generation. In fact, it's probable that we're all capable of being a bit more efficient if we don't have distractions of mental illness, or taking care of other people. Now, taking care of other people may be a very good thing. Maybe if we have no one to take care of, there'll be something bad that happens to us socially. So these things are very complicated and hard to predict. I think right now, the baby step, or actually the pretty big baby step, is to eliminate diseases or at least make it possible for people to eliminate their own diseases as they see fit. You've worked on brain organoids and brain connectome and so forth. How has that work shifted your view on fundamentally how complex intelligence is? Are you more bullish on AI because you realized the organoids are not that complicated, or rather very little information is required to describe how to grow them. Or are you like, “No, this is actually much more gnarly than I realized.”…

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