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15 Aug 2025 Dwarkesh Podcast China is killing the US on energy. Does that mean they’ll win AGI? — Casey Handmer
“From countries that they don't control, don't have strong diplomatic relationships with, on fleets of oil tankers that they can't defend because their navy doesn't have the ability to operate effectively in the Indian Ocean.”
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- 15 Aug 2025
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- Dwarkesh Podcast
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…They called the most important thing correct, right? Which should count for something. Well, they're in a similar situation to Europe, but unlike the United States. The United States is the luckiest goddamn country on earth because it's surrounded on two sides by oceans and on the other two sides by friendly allies. China's surrounded by 15 countries who are mostly hostile to it, with no good mountain ranges or rivers or anything to really separate them. They get almost all their oil from the Middle East. From countries that they don't control, don't have strong diplomatic relationships with, on fleets of oil tankers that they can't defend because their navy doesn't have the ability to operate effectively in the Indian Ocean. But you're working on this, right? If you get synthetic fuels working at Terraform. Doesn't that asymmetrically help China? Which might be fine.…
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