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Likes Buddenbrooks.

3 Dec 2025 Conversations with Tyler Dan Wang on What China and America Can Learn from Each Other

“I much prefer Anna Karenina to War and Peace. I prefer Buddenbrooks to Magic Mountain.”

— Dan Wang

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Dan Wang
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3 Dec 2025
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Conversations with Tyler

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…It feels like an older city in a way. Again, I’m not sure I would prefer to live there, but as a visitor, it’s more different for me. Tyler, what does it say about us that you and I have generally a lot of similar interests in terms of, let’s call it books, music, all sorts of things, but when it comes to particular categories of things, we oppose each other diametrically. I much prefer Anna Karenina to War and Peace. I prefer Buddenbrooks to Magic Mountain. Here again, you oppose me. What’s the deal? I don’t think the differences are that big. For instance, if we ask ourselves, what’s the relative ranking of Chengdu plus Chongqing compared to the rest of the world? We’re 98.5% in agreement compared to almost anyone else. When you get to the micro level, the so-called narcissism of petty differences, obviously, you’re born in China. I grew up in New Jersey. It’s going to shape our perspectives. Anything in China, you have been there in a much more full-time way, and you speak and read Chinese, and none of that applies to me. I’m popping in and out as a tourist. Then, I think the differences make much more sense. It’s possible I would prefer to live in Shanghai for essentially the reasons you mentioned. If I’m somewhere for a week, I’m definitely going to pick Beijing. I’ll go around to the galleries. The things that are terrible about the city just don’t bother me that much, because I know I’ll be gone.…

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