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21 Dec 2025 Lenny's Podcast The coming AI security crisis (and what to do about it) | Sander Schulhoff

“It's kind of funny, because AI researchers are the only people who can solve this stuff long-term, but cybersecurity professionals are, they're the only ones who can kind of solve it short term, largely in making sure we deploy properly permission systems and nothing that could possibly do something very, very bad.”

— Sander Schulhoff

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Sander Schulhoff
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21 Dec 2025
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Lenny's Podcast

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…Okay. So your advice is just don't even spend any time on this. I really like this framing that you shared of... So essentially where you can make impact is investing in cybersecurity plus, this kind of space between traditional cybersecurity and AI experience and using this lens of, okay, imagine this agent service that we just implemented is an angry God that wants to cause us as much harm as possible. Using that as a lens of, okay, how do we keep it contained, so that it can't actually do any damage and then actually convince it to do good things for us? It's kind of funny, because AI researchers are the only people who can solve this stuff long-term, but cybersecurity professionals are, they're the only ones who can kind of solve it short term, largely in making sure we deploy properly permission systems and nothing that could possibly do something very, very bad. So yeah, that confluence of career paths I think is going to be really, really important. Okay. So far the advice is most times you may not need to do anything. It's a read-only sort of conversational AI. There's damage potential, but it's not massive. So don't spend too much time there necessarily. Two is this idea of investing in cybersecurity plus AI in this kind of space within the industry that you think is going to emerge more and more. Anything else people can do?…

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