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Dwarkesh Patel: disagreement

15 Aug 2025 Dwarkesh Podcast China is killing the US on energy. Does that mean they’ll win AGI? — Casey Handmer

“I think at some point, you will be right. Maybe we disagree about–sorry, I'm not qualified to disagree.”

— Dwarkesh Patel

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Speaker
Dwarkesh Patel
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disagreement
Recorded
15 Aug 2025
Publisher
Dwarkesh Podcast

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…Well, actually in the limit you can because you can put them on trucks and drive them around. There could be a capacity market for batteries where you drive them around to people who need them. In practice, it's going to be cheaper just to double the size of your battery because batteries are going to keep getting cheaper and cheaper. But what it does mean is you can say, “Well, I know that I'm going to have three low days, so I will start curtailing now by 5% so I don't have to curtail by 50% in three days. Then overall for the whole year I'll only curtail five hours, so I'm still at four nines instead of having to curtail 24 hours because I can't predict the weather.” Okay, let's assume you're right. I think at some point, you will be right. Maybe we disagree about–sorry, I'm not qualified to disagree. Maybe you and some other person disagree about what year it happens. But it's hard to deny that in the asymptote, our civilization is headed towards lots of energy use for AI and a lot of that coming from solar. In that asymptote, I want to get to the crazy nerd sci-fi…. What does our civilization look like? What is happening? Kardashev Level 1.…

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