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24 Jun 2025 Machine Learning Street Talk Three Red Lines We're About to Cross Toward AGI (Daniel Kokotajlo, Gary Marcus, Dan Hendrycks)

“Read I think more people probably read the, darker scenario than the positive scenario.”

— Gary Marcus

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Gary Marcus
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belief
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24 Jun 2025
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Machine Learning Street Talk

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…start with that? Yeah. So so first of all, I actually think it's quite reasonable to basically stand in front of the bulldozer and say stop. I think that eventually we want to build AI because it is possible to get it right. And it is possible to make it in such a way that's beneficial to everyone and massively beneficial to everyone, in fact. But if we are currently not on a track to getting it right and we're currently on a track to make it in a way that's going to be horrible, then it makes sense to just sort of stop until we figure out a better way. But yeah, as for what the benefits could look like, well, AI 2027 has the slowdown ending in which things go really well for almost everybody. And Since since not everybody That's it. Read I think more people probably read the, darker scenario than the positive scenario. Lay out for people who might not have read the positive scenario a little bit about what the spirit of that is. Sure. So in the slowdown ending of AI 2027, they managed to devote just barely enough effort and time and resources towards the technical alignment problem that they solve it, just barely in time so that they can still, beat China as they have wanted to do. But by they, I mean, you know, the leader of the of the leading AI company and the president and maybe some other companies. Right? That group of people. So, the slowdown ending is not our recommendation for what we should actually aim for. We think it's an to aim for this sort of scenario would be to expose the world to incredible amounts of risk of various types. So we don't think it's our recommendation. But nevertheless, it's a coherent, plausible scenario for how things could sort of muddle through and end up pretty well for everybody.…

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