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Published · transcript-backedBob Moesta: evaluation
23 Feb 2025 Lenny's Podcast How to find work you love | Bob Moesta (Jobs-to-be-Done co-creator, author of "Job Moves”)
“That's right. And the other problem I realized is that when you overpay people, what happens is that they actually become more and more scared that they will lose it, and then they become more and more conservative because they don't want to rock the boat and they actually don't work.”
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- 23 Feb 2025
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…I don't think there's anything controversial about that. If you're a cool company that everyone wants to work at, people will pay, will take less salary because of the experience they're going to get and the potential. That's right. And the other problem I realized is that when you overpay people, what happens is that they actually become more and more scared that they will lose it, and then they become more and more conservative because they don't want to rock the boat and they actually don't work. They do what they're told as opposed to do what they should do. And so you start to realize that money has a very interesting impact on behavior, and I have not studied it in any great fashion. There's many people who have studied more than me, but that observation of when I overpay people, they're all about, I just don't want to not get my bonus and you better make sure that I can. And you start to realize, but they don't know what it takes to get the bonus. And so you start to realize trying to innovate when everybody's only around bonuses, I suppose, that they love to do this work. Usually when they love to do the work, they get more bonus. This idea of trade-off is such an important one. I feel like that's one of the biggest, most stressful elements of job search is deciding, okay, I have these job offers. I have one job offer. Should I wait, should I not? You talked about how there's the salary, the title versus a specific like the energize. This is going to energize me, give me what I want. There's also the trade-off of this will help me in my future career. There's always this idea, if I do this, this will help me with the next step. In the next step. Is there anything more there along trade-offs that might be helpful for people to understand?…
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