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19 Mar 2025 Conversations with Tyler Ezra Klein on the Abundance Agenda
“One of the things about polarization that I think makes it tricky to talk about is, we say it like it is a static thing, but what you are polarized over really matters.”
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- 19 Mar 2025
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…I think it is. It has more dimensions than ever before… in terms of what a lot of our government does, and in terms of, say, racially, how people vote, I think it’s down a lot. One of the things about polarization that I think makes it tricky to talk about is, we say it like it is a static thing, but what you are polarized over really matters. When I was writing a lot of the book that came out in 2020 — in the cursed early quarter of 2020 before COVID bisected the tour — that was a polarization that had a number of dimensions, but I had written a lot of that book in the Obama years. I was thinking during a lot of it, polarization over the Supreme Court, polarization over Obamacare, polarization over taxes. You remember back when we used to talk a lot about the Grover Norquist tax pledge in Washington, and that was a big thing about how the parties were so divided. Compared to then, I think now we have less policy polarization, and more system-level polarization. I agree with that.…
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