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Published · transcript-backedLenny Rachitsky: belief
21 Sept 2025 Lenny's Podcast From managing people to managing AI: The leadership skills everyone needs now | Julie Zhuo (Facebook VP, Sundial CEO, The Making of a Manager author)
“Like, it will only get weirder. And I think giving people that sense of like, okay, just enjoy this normal because this is going to be only weirder will at least give people an expectation, real expectation, where things might be going.”
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- Lenny Rachitsky
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- 21 Sept 2025
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…I think if you don't think it's good, it's kind of a painful way to live. It'll be very, very difficult over these next. So I do think that all things be equal, lean into it. Like if you can wake up every day and see it as opportunity and excitement rather than fear. Again, they're all flip sides of the same coin. But I think if we can lean more into what could it be while recognizing that the other side does exist and it's still there. And I think if managers who try to pretend like, It isn't there. It's all good. No one's upset, et cetera. There's something also missing about just addressing and being able to be like, yeah, it's hard. Change is hard. We're probably going to get upset. We're going to have some chaos. This is going to happen, but we will work through it because we're going to be flexible and we're going to be able to put our eyes on the big picture of what is possible, which is exciting. There's another quote that came up as you were talking. I forget who it was exactly. Maybe Kevin Wheel, maybe Mike Krieger. They said that this is the most normal things will be ever. Like, it will only get weirder. And I think giving people that sense of like, okay, just enjoy this normal because this is going to be only weirder will at least give people an expectation, real expectation, where things might be going. Yes, yes.…
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