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Trenton Bricken: belief

22 May 2025 Dwarkesh Podcast Is RL + LLMs enough for AGI? — Sholto Douglas & Trenton Bricken

“I think more and more it's no longer a question of speculation. If people are skeptical, I'd encourage using Claude Code, or some agentic tool like it and just seeing what the current level of capabilities are.”

— Trenton Bricken

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Speaker
Trenton Bricken
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Claim type
belief
Recorded
22 May 2025
Publisher
Dwarkesh Podcast

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…I would be extremely surprised if that was the case. I think that would be somewhat of an update towards, there's something strangely difficult about this computer use in particular. I don't know if it's the bust timeline, but it's definitely the, I would update on this being lengthening of timeline. I think more and more it's no longer a question of speculation. If people are skeptical, I'd encourage using Claude Code, or some agentic tool like it and just seeing what the current level of capabilities are. Tweeting is so much easier.…

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