Evidence receipt / belief
Published · transcript-backedJohn Schulman: belief
15 May 2024 Dwarkesh Podcast John Schulman (OpenAI Cofounder) — Reasoning, RLHF, & plan for 2027 AGI
“I'm not sure how you would maintain this equilibrium for a long period of time, but I think if we got to that point we would be in an okay position.”
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- 15 May 2024
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…Limit to what end? At some point the potential energy that's within this intelligence will be unleashed. Suppose in two years we get the AGI. Now everybody's freaking out. The AI companies have paused. What would be the thing we plan to wait until? I don't have a good answer to that. If we can coordinate like that, that would be a pretty good scenario. Building these models is very capital intensive and there are a lot of complex pieces. It's not like everyone's going to go and recreate this stuff at home. Given the relatively small number of entities who could train the largest models, it does seem possible to coordinate. I'm not sure how you would maintain this equilibrium for a long period of time, but I think if we got to that point we would be in an okay position. Would we? I'm still curious because I'm not sure what happens next. Fundamentally, the benefit is that you push it to the server and now we have a bunch of intelligences, or they could push themselves to the server. Now we’ve got everybody coordinated but I'm not sure what we do next in this world. Why does that set us up for a good outcome?…
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