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Published · transcript-backedBob Moesta: evaluation
23 Feb 2025 Lenny's Podcast How to find work you love | Bob Moesta (Jobs-to-be-Done co-creator, author of "Job Moves”)
“Like 53% of the people who basically said they got more money, did not get more money. They told the company they had more money because they knew they couldn't argue with having them come back because they got more money.”
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- 23 Feb 2025
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…So many people talk about I out of here, I've got to leave, I got to go. And then they never do. That's Right. And so what you start to realize is I have four kids and my daughter would come home one day and I'd say, how is work? And if she could name me four of the pushes, I knew she was already looking for another job. And so it's this notion of it's not anyone push, but it's when the set of pushes come together and really give you enough energy to go like, yeah, I can't see where to go. I am disrespected. And the fact is I'm not learning as much as I used to learn, I got to go find a new place. And so it's these three or four things that have to happen that ultimately cause people to say, today's the day I got to leave. But the other part is they won't leave if they don't know where to go. And so a lot of people end up, they have enough energy to leave, but then they actually just go get another job in the same position they had before and that it's actually worse, the same or worse than it was the other place. And so part of this is that you have to understand what does progress mean to you? So we have to talk about the polls, which are these things that happen to you that the outcomes that you're actually seeking by going to this job. And it's not more money. Like 53% of the people who basically said they got more money, did not get more money. They told the company they had more money because they knew they couldn't argue with having them come back because they got more money. And in their mind they're like, if they give me that much money, I'll stay. And it's like it's not really the reason. And so this is where you start to peel back that onion and you realize it's very, very fertile in terms of all this energy to cause people to make a job change. I want to go back to people looking for a job right now, but before we do that, you talked about energy drivers, energy drains. This is such an important and fertile area and you have an actual guide for helping you figure out what gives you energy, what drains your energy so that you can find work that gives you energy, which is really important, share advice on how to figure this out for yourself.…
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