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George Church: prediction

26 Jun 2025 Dwarkesh Podcast A billion years of evolution in a single afternoon — George Church

“It's going to go pretty fast with just regular AI without AGI. But if you add to it AGI… It'll also be a positive feedback loop, because the more people that get fixed or get access to good healthcare, the more people will be helping prompt the AI, if that's necessary.”

— George Church

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George Church
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26 Jun 2025
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Dwarkesh Podcast

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…Final question. Given the fast pace of AI progress—your point taken, that we should be cautious of this technology, but by default I expect it to go quite fast and there not being some sort of global moratorium on AI progress… Given that's the case, what is the vision? We're going to very plausibly have a world with genuine AGI within the next 20 years. What is the vision for biology given that fact? If AI were 100 years away we could say we've got this research we're doing with the brain or with gene therapies and so forth which might help us cope or might help us stay on the same page. Given how fast AI is happening, what is the vision for this bio-AI co-evolution or whatever it might look like? If we handle the safety issues, and that has to be a top priority, then we're probably going to have almost perfect health. Why wouldn't we? It's going to go so fast. It's going to go pretty fast with just regular AI without AGI. But if you add to it AGI… It'll also be a positive feedback loop, because the more people that get fixed or get access to good healthcare, the more people will be helping prompt the AI, if that's necessary. I think it probably will be. The more hybrid systems we'll have of people and machines working together in harmony in this very positive scenario. Well, that's a good vision to end on. George, thank you so much for coming on.…

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