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Max Schoening: belief

3 May 2026 Lenny's Podcast Why cultivating agency matters more than cultivating skills in the AI era | Max Schoening (Head of Product, Notion)

“Tinker can sometimes be a little bit derogatory. And I think with the German equivalent, it's just not that harsh.”

— Max Schoening

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Max Schoening
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belief
Recorded
3 May 2026
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

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…Final question. You speak German. Do you have a favorite German word? I do. [foreign language 01:25:13], which is like tinker, but to me, it sounds like it has a less ... Tinker can sometimes be a little bit derogatory. And I think with the German equivalent, it's just not that harsh. And then the other one is [foreign language 01:25:32], which is the word for user, but it puts so much more emphasize on using up a thing. As in, if you think about user, it's like you're using it, but using it up. And so then you think a lot more about the impermanence/the wastefulness of products that you might build if you use that word. I love it. I love that you had quick answers to this question. Max, this was amazing. Thank you so much for doing this. Two final questions. Where can folks find you online if they want to ping you about anything? And how can listeners be useful to you?…

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