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Tim Scarfe: evaluation

23 Jan 2026 Machine Learning Street Talk Abstraction & Idealization: AI's Plato Problem [Mazviita Chirimuuta]

“I agree that it's not because clearly we live in the physical world but there's an apparent disconnection.”

— Tim Scarfe

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Tim Scarfe
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23 Jan 2026
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Machine Learning Street Talk

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…This tradition that Heidegger criticizes from that path from philosophy to technology, of this aspiration to sort of transcend embodiment, transcend materiality, to create for ourselves this leap into a almost spiritual world of pure information. And it's interesting how, like, infrastructure is presented to consumers, people like me, as like behind the scenes immaterial, not really connected with real world constraints. Like, it's the cloud, it floats above us. There's no there's no almost cost to it. It's weightless. That's not how technology infrastructure works, but it seems like that's what we'd like it to be. We'd like this idea that all of this information age that we have us around today is not connected with real world stuff like actually building computers and shortages of resources and consumption of energy and all of those things. We like to think of it as disconnected from that in ways that it's obviously not. I agree that it's not because clearly we live in the physical world but there's an apparent disconnection. There was the digital divide of course in the 1980s and it was very difficult even to work and get a job if you didn't know about computers. Now, even to get a driving license, it's all done online. The legal landscape is not physical anymore, it's And even like the European GDPR regulations, as Floridi says, you're a digital entity and it's diffused and so on so, you know, Facebook and whatnot. It certainly feels like we live our world, we live our lives in the information world. Yeah. And it's becoming more and more kind of confusing in that sense. So living in the information world, do you mean by that kind of the information that we get through devices, through kind of this diffuse spread of technologically connected things is more salient to us than our experience with like our concrete here and now situation.…

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