Daniel Ek: belief

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…Or approved by the creator. I think you're entirely right. There's been a lot of debate around the Elon Musk subscriber thing. Actually, as usual, when you tease it out, there are many different things in that controversy, but perhaps the most potent and most interesting one has been the one around the notion and idea around staking as a way of reducing the bot thing. I feel like so much has just ended up being, hey, do I have to pay in order to reach my audience now, that kind of switcheroo? But I think the more interesting one was, well, forget about if it's paid or not, but just increasing the costs of spam, but also increasing the quality of verification and being able to truly understand what's what in the end. Twitter is so interesting. We were talking with a friend who's a creator peer, but his platform is Twitter, and you can't monetize Twitter. There's no rev share. Traditional social platforms like that, you got them on one end of the spectrum. You've got Spotify, maybe Spotify podcasting and Spotify music at the far end of the spectrum, and then you've got YouTube in the middle. How do you think about what role for monetization, especially on the podcasting side, Spotify should play for creators?…

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