Julie Zhuo: belief

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…Like the common meme on Twitter, you can just do things. Final question. I like to ask this question of folks that are really deep in AI and have been working with AI and kind of getting a sense of where things are going. Is there something that you teach your kids or teaching your kids, think about encouraging them to learn, knowing that AI is going to be a big part of their life? Emotional regulation is still really, really, really important. That's probably the thing that I think about the most in terms of what I want my kids to learn. I want my kids to be able to introspect, to have a better understanding of where their state of mind is. Because we're still human. We still have the same hardware that humans have had for thousands of years. And that's not changing even as the tools and the environment around us change. And so... I feel that you have to really understand yourself and you have to understand what's going on for you and where you are biased and where you are not. Because AI can make it, and this is my great fear, is that it makes things so much more comfortable. And I have this great fear that this has been the trajectory that we've been on with technology, right? This is, again, going back to like every strength is a weakness. Technology... makes things a lot easier that's why we invent that's why we create like we're always human race has always been about trying to better our circumstances and in some ways control our destiny like control our future but at the same time all of that control gets to a point where We have so many shortcuts in our lives and you can shortcut a lot of things. I can shortcut relationships. You can shortcut like hard feelings because now you can just watch TikTok instead of actually dealing with the very difficult emotion or tension that you had with a colleague or with your partner or with your children. And AI makes it even, I think, more attractive because now there's a person who can, or there's a thing that can be very, very personalized. And if you're like, oh, I want a distraction. I want to do something. You got that. But how do we actually still learn to sit with what is our true biology? That's not changing. And how do we continue to be the kind of people that want to take on the freedom of doing challenging things? Because I find that if we don't do challenging things, we just, we suffer. Yeah. We suffer in a different way. And so to me, true freedom is you can pick the things that are hard and you can feel pride in becoming the thing that you want to be. It's not forced upon you. It's not for survival's sake anymore, but you still have to pick. And I want to figure out for my children the fact that it is really important to still find the challenge. Yes, you can use AI to do that, but really don't think about it as a shortcut tool. because if that's the case, I don't actually think that they're going to be able to become the kind of people they want to be in the world. What a beautiful way to end this conversation. Julia, it feels like this is just like some kind of huge milestone of this podcast, just like having you back three years later. It's like a, I don't know, a chapter in the journey. I appreciate you coming back. I appreciate you sharing all this wisdom with us. Two final questions. Where can folks find you online if they want to reach out and maybe chat about maybe Sundial, maybe whatever else you're up to, and then how can listeners be useful to you?…

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