Ben Gilbert: commitment

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…No. We're trying to get people off of Chrome. That's a matter of getting people to see that it's easy to migrate. You can even co-browse for a while, you don't lose anything, and then you can cut the cord with Chrome. People switched from Firefox, that happens over time because it's going down, people can see, and there are problems there. We can get people off Safari, but Safari is still privileged and Apple's OS as in kind of tied, so that's hard. Edge is somewhat privileged in Windows, which is a little hard on us. We're competing, I think, for thought leadership with other privacy firms. There's Jumbo Privacy, which isn't really doing a browser, but it's coming up with stuff. It's another venture-funded thing. DuckDuckGo has been out there a long time. They built up quite a reputation and brand name. You see their signs in airports. They've done a marketing-first approach and gotten to a reasonable annual turnover, from what I understand. That's got to be considered a competitor because they're doing desktop browsers on top of mobile now. But we look at the pie that we're dividing up as very large. If you're taking users from Chrome, we could both take and not really interfere with each other. The worst-case to me would be Duck and Brave start blooding each other in some mixed martial arts match to claim the privacy mantle prematurely. That seems needlessly destructive, but it is difficult marketing across the chasm. You have to say we are more private, we are better, or you should use us because we're faster or more complete, we block these threats that the other doesn't. Some of that will have to happen. It's just going to have to happen for marketing reasons. All right, lightning round of carve outs. David, give us your first one. You and I will go first and we'll kick it to Brendan so he can think on his. I'm going to make it easy. My carve out is a book I'm about halfway through. I started reading because I saw you tweeting about it while you were in Hawaii. Project Hail Mary, Andy Weir. It's so good. Really enjoying it so far.…

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