Diane Penn: evaluation

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…I want to ask you a couple questions I like to ask folks working at the very center of the future that is coming. One is, where do you think human brains will continue to be most valuable over the years? I know Anthropic's mission and vision will reach AGI, a super intelligence. So in the future, maybe nowhere. But before we get there- Intelligence. So in the future, maybe nowhere, but before we get there, where do you think human brains will continue to be most valuable, as we approach that timeline? We started to talk about making Claude and models better at judgment, especially in the last year or so. I think judgment is an area where, it's accumulation of so much nuance and so much experience. And these systems haven't experienced as much as humans have. And so I think that hard-earned judgment is a area for product leaders and just generally will continue to be really critical. There are so many things AIs can build. Which one are the things that an org like Lab should build? A lot of that requires human judgment, persistence, so proactivity. These are all traits that are beyond just general capabilities, but just behaviors and characteristics of people at that level of how do you get to the best solutions? How do you create the best experiences? So I think those types of traits are actually the tactile traits that I think will continue to be important. I think there is also still a lot of capabilities and subject matter expertise as well. I think software engineering has been really transformed by AI. I think there's areas like biology, life sciences. These are all things that we're just at the foot of the exponential on. Maybe software engineering, we're on the exponential. On some of these other areas, we're not quite there yet. And so I think you're seeing us shift things like Claude Science investing in these areas because those are areas that I think is just bring this technology to society and having a positive benefit for society. So I think there's a lot more to go there. Another question I want to ask is, as someone with kids, how do you think about what you are encouraging them to learn? Where do you think you're going to nudge them to be successful in this wild new world that we're entering?…

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