Evidence receipt / belief
Published · transcript-backedCaitlin Kalinowski: belief
17 May 2026 Lenny's Podcast Why we’re at the beginning of the AI hardware boom | Caitlin Kalinowski (ex–OpenAI, Meta, Apple)
“I mean, I think that we are, and I don't want to be on a high horse or something, but I do think that we're in a place where we need to think about things in the future in these terms and defend these things with our capabilities while also hoping that we never have to have hot conflict anywhere.”
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- Caitlin Kalinowski
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- belief
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- 17 May 2026
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- Lenny's Podcast
Transcript context
…And I totally agree. There's nothing like war to incentivize innovation and just endless improvement and trying to get ahead of the other side. Especially when democracy is at stake. I mean, I think that we are, and I don't want to be on a high horse or something, but I do think that we're in a place where we need to think about things in the future in these terms and defend these things with our capabilities while also hoping that we never have to have hot conflict anywhere. Along those lines, I have to ask you, recently you became famous, on Twitter at least, for quitting OpenAI. You tweeted that you're leaving with your brief explanation and got seven million views, 50, I don't know, 8,000 likes. What happened? Why'd you leave OpenAI? What happened?…
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