Dario Amodei: belief

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…Speaking of distribution, as you were mentioning, we have developing countries. In many cases, catch-up growth has been weaker than we would have hoped for. But when catch-up growth does happen, it’s fundamentally because they have underutilized labor. We can bring the capital and know-how from developed countries to these countries, and then they can grow quite rapidly. Obviously, in a world where labor is no longer the constraining factor, this mechanism no longer works. So is the hope basically to rely on philanthropy from the people or countries who immediately get wealthy from AI? What is the hope? Philanthropy should obviously play some role, as it has in the past. But I think growth is always better and stronger if we can make it endogenous. What are the relevant industries in an AI-driven world? I said we shouldn’t build data centers in China, but there’s no reason we shouldn’t build data centers in Africa. In fact, I think it’d be great to build data centers in Africa. As long as they’re not owned by China, we should build data centers in Africa. I think that’s a great thing to do. There’s no reason we can’t build a pharmaceutical industry that’s AI-driven. If AI is accelerating drug discovery, then there will be a bunch of biotech startups. Let’s make sure some of those happen in the developing world. Certainly, during the transition—we can talk about the point where humans have no role—humans will still have some role in starting up these companies and supervising the AI models. So let’s make sure some of those humans are in the developing world so that fast growth can happen there as well. You guys recently announced that Claude is going to have a constitution that’s aligned to a set of values, and not necessarily just to the end user. There’s a world I can imagine where if it is aligned to the end user, it preserves the balance of power we have in the world today because everybody gets to have their own AI that’s advocating for them. The ratio of bad actors to good actors stays constant. It seems to work out for our world today. Why is it better not to do that, but to have a specific set of values that the AI should carry forward?…

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