Jonny Steinberg: observation

28 Oct 2025 Conversations with Tyler Jonny Steinberg on South African Crime and Punishment, the Mandelas' Marriage, and the Post-Apartheid Era

“When I was riding around with them, it was really amusing. They had an equivalent of a CompStat system, which told them where the hot spots were, which was where they had to police, and they’d make absolutely sure to do the opposite and not be in hot spots, because if there were only two of them, they were not sure that they could control people.”

— Jonny Steinberg

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Speaker: Jonny Steinberg
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Claim type: observation
Recorded: 28 Oct 2025
Publisher: Conversations with Tyler
Episode: Jonny Steinberg on South African Crime and Punishment, the Mandelas' Marriage, and the Post-Apartheid Era

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…So they just don’t even show up and take the call. Yeah. When I was riding around with them, it was really amusing. They had an equivalent of a CompStat system, which told them where the hot spots were, which was where they had to police, and they’d make absolutely sure to do the opposite and not be in hot spots, because if there were only two of them, they were not sure that they could control people. So you spent about 350 hours riding around in South African police vans?…

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