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23 Apr 2026 Lenny's Podcast How Anthropic’s product team moves faster than anyone else | Cat Wu (Head of Product, Claude Code)

“So CLI and desktop both require you to be on your local laptop. And this is contraining because sometimes you're out and about, you're like touching grass, you're going on a walk and you don't have your laptop open and you don't, I can't count the number of people who I've seen like holding their laptop open, like tethered to their phone while they're outside.”

— Cat Wu

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Cat Wu
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23 Apr 2026
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Lenny's Podcast

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…So we've been talking about cloud, co-work, all these things, something that I want to make sure people get. And I'm curious just how you use these tools. So there's cloud code, there's cloud desktop slash web, there's co-work. What's the best way to understand when to use which? When do you use each of these three? So I tend to use Cloud Code in the terminal when I'm just kicking off like a one-off coding task and I want all of the latest features. The CLI is our initial product surface and it's also the one where our features often land first. And so it's the most powerful of all the tools. So that's what I tend to use when I'm just trying to kick off one or maybe a handful of tasks at a time. I think desktop really shines when you're doing something that requires front-end work. And so one thing that I love to do is to use our preview feature. So if I'm building a web app, I'll often use Cloud Code in desktop. I'll have the preview pane open on the right-hand side so that I can actually see the web app that I'm making in real time as I'm chatting with Cloud. It's also really great for people who want something a bit more graphical. A terminal can feel very unfamiliar to someone who's non-technical. You get a bunch of these scary pop-ups on your machine, and you can't click around the way that you're used to in pretty much every other product that you use. So there's a lot of people who just don't feel comfortable in the terminal. And if that's you, I would highly recommend checking out Cloud Code on desktop. Desktop is also great for getting an at-a-glance view of everything that's happening. So you can see your CLI terminal sessions in desktop. You can see your other desktop sessions. You can see your sessions that you kicked off on web and mobile. So it's a one-stop control plane where you can see all of your tasks. I think the benefit of web and mobile is that it's really great for kicking things off on the go. So CLI and desktop both require you to be on your local laptop. And this is contraining because sometimes you're out and about, you're like touching grass, you're going on a walk and you don't have your laptop open and you don't, I can't count the number of people who I've seen like holding their laptop open, like tethered to their phone while they're outside. And this just means that we're missing a product that solves that need. And so for me, what mobile lets you do is kick off these tasks on the go so that you don't need to bring your laptop everywhere and make sure that your laptop's open wherever you are. I love that. I've seen people on plane, like it's just like such a meme now. Just I need to finish, let this agent finish. I can't shut this down. Exactly.…

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