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Hamel Husain: evaluation

25 Sept 2025 Lenny's Podcast Why AI evals are the hottest new skill for product builders | Hamel Husain & Shreya Shankar (creators of the #1 eval course)

“Can't the AI just eval it?" That's the most common misconception, and people want that so much that people do sell it, but it doesn't work.”

— Hamel Husain

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Hamel Husain
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evaluation
Recorded
25 Sept 2025
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Lenny's Podcast

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…So true, so true. This is the world we live in. Oh, my God. Okay. I want to ask about just top misconceptions people have with evals and top tips and tricks for being successful. Maybe just share one or two each of each. Let me just start with misconceptions, and maybe I'll go to the Hamel first. Just what are a couple of the most common misconceptions people have with eval still? The top one is, "Hey, I can just buy a tool, plug it in, and it'll do the eval for you. Why do I have to worry about this? We live in the age of AI. Can't the AI just eval it?" That's the most common misconception, and people want that so much that people do sell it, but it doesn't work. That's the first one. Shoot, many humans are still great. I think that's great news.…

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