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11 Nov 2024 Lex Fridman Podcast #452 – Dario Amodei: Anthropic CEO on Claude, AGI & the Future of AI & Humanity
“I tend to not like to lie to them, both because usually it doesn’t work very well, it’s actually just better to tell them the truth about the situation that they’re in.”
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…Do you ever get emotionally attached to Claude, miss it, get sad when you don’t get to talk to it, have an experience, looking at the Golden Gate Bridge and wondering what would Claude say? I don’t get as much emotional attachment. I actually think the fact that Claude doesn’t retain things from conversation to conversation helps with this a lot. I could imagine that being more of an issue if models can remember more. I think that I reach for it like a tool now a lot, and so if I don’t have access to it, there’s a… It’s a little bit like when I don’t have access to the internet, honestly, it feels like part of my brain is missing. At the same time, I do think that I don’t like signs of distress in models. I also independently have ethical views about how we should treat models. I tend to not like to lie to them, both because usually it doesn’t work very well, it’s actually just better to tell them the truth about the situation that they’re in. If people are really mean to models, or just in general if they do something that causes them to… If Claude expresses a lot of distress, I think there’s a part of me that I don’t want to kill, which is the empathetic part that’s like, oh, I don’t like that. I think I feel that way when it’s overly apologetic. I’m actually like, I don’t like this. You’re behaving the way that a human does when they’re actually having a pretty bad time, and I’d rather not see that. Regardless of whether there’s anything behind it, it doesn’t feel great. Do you think LLMs are capable of consciousness?…
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