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17 Sept 2025 Cheeky Pint Ambrook CEO Mackenzie Burnett on American agriculture, rural resilience, and carrying 50lbs of fresh pork on Amtrak

“There is such a thing as overgrazing, right? But I think a lot of what people talk about with rotational growth—it’s called rotational grazing—just a lot of labor to move the cattle every day to be able to do that.”

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17 Sept 2025
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…Why is it better for grasslands? Oh, it’s fire management? It can be. There is such a thing as overgrazing, right? But I think a lot of what people talk about with rotational growth—it’s called rotational grazing—just a lot of labor to move the cattle every day to be able to do that. But it actually does build back up the soil in a way where the cattle graze and then they poop and then the poop becomes better soil and you can move throughout and there’s a lot of interesting and virtual fencing to be able to make that easier. But there is a way in which good healthy livestock management also creates healthier soils, and it is possible. It just is technically… you have to be trained and understand how to do it, and there is some capital barriers or labor barriers to be able to do that. So there is access to the type of capital that would create the incentives to be able to make that possible. And then you have on the other side, access to markets. Historically, if you’re just sort doing wholesale, you’re going to get wholesale prices. This is where you see the rise of D2C really help and when you’re able to have access to higher-margin markets—so a lot of online payments actually has helped that a ton. You just also need to be able to manage your books in a way that can actually make that easier to manage. Again, what I’m talking about is diversification, right? And whenever you introduce diversification, you also introduce complexity and risk. Can any farm do D2C? I would’ve thought maybe it requires some minimum scale to make sense or it’s just reasonably labor intensive—the packing and shipping of individual shipments to individual customers.…

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