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John Collison: preference

14 Apr 2026 Cheeky Pint The world of voice AI, with Mati Staniszewski of ElevenLabs

“Maybe you want to have a subscription with some unlimited tiers, but I don't know if you had the experience of you're using Claude, and you're typing away your queries, and eventually you hit some rate limit, and it's like, "Sorry, you've hit your usage limit," and you want to be able to do the thing that you can do with Claude Code, which is just pay per API.”

— John Collison

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John Collison
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preference
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14 Apr 2026
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Cheeky Pint

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…We had the subscriptions, yeah. Subscription plans, you could go over them, but now we are launching a full pay-as-you-go experience. You can just try out voice engine, which is effectively this orchestration loop all the way through to any of the models directly. Going back to self-serve, I think a new thing in AI is that all self-serve products should have pay-as-you-go as an option. Maybe you want to have a subscription with some unlimited tiers, but I don't know if you had the experience of you're using Claude, and you're typing away your queries, and eventually you hit some rate limit, and it's like, "Sorry, you've hit your usage limit," and you want to be able to do the thing that you can do with Claude Code, which is just pay per API. It's like, I'll pay for it. It's very funny as a consumer to not have the option to pay more, to use the product more. I think every AI product will need… They probably want to have some all you can… Most of what you can eat subscription with limits and then the ability to pay for overages. It sounds like that's what you're doing. Yeah, exactly. That's what we're doing.…

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