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21 Jul 2024 Lenny's Podcast What most people miss about marketing | Rory Sutherland (Vice Chairman of Ogilvy UK, author)
“For years, I don't know if this is still true because I don't drive many Rolls-Royces, but for years, Rolls-Royce was the last car, now obviously now cars dip their headlamps automatically, or you have an automatic setting, but for years, Rolls-Royces were the only cars which still had a pedal on the floor, perfect for an automatic, not so good for a manual, but they had a pedal on the floor where you dipped and undipped your headlamps rather than having a stop.”
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