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…Now the genuine contrarian. We Ron Shapira hosts Doom Debates, and his reaction to the ban surprised me as much as anything all week. Clown show or not, he is glad it happened, and he'll tell you precisely why breaking the ice is worth more to him than getting it right. I'm a simple man. I see AI getting paused. I feel good about breaking the Overton window. You know, the government can do it. It's that easy, guys. This is a precedent. Overall, I'm happy. You can talk about the nuances. It was done like a clown show. It was done for bad motives. It doesn't really consider China or a treaty or anything. There's a lot of problems. But I'm really happy about smashing the Overton window where now tech folks don't think that they're like in a bubble or they're untouchable. Like it happened, guys. You know, we can only go from here. I have-- I actually agree with you because I think it was a little bit delusional for tech to feel that it wasn't going to get touched. And the government just has so many little-- so many, you know, small and large ways to effectuate its power. It was not that surprising to me that they went through the left field and went with the export control rather than anything else. But it also strikes me that as they exercise this, we start also to go into kind of what we wanted to avoid. It's a little bit of small tourney, right? I think several people on the timeline have commented, Dean Ball has commented, this kind of unstructured regulation without-- looks kind of selective and vengeful almost. And it kind of starts putting you in this zone where I think tech people start to mistrust the government because you also see, I think there's a lot of narratives on the timeline which are being leaked, you know, sources close to, sources familiar with. And as they get leaked, it's not very certain whether those things actually happened. Would someone actually attest to that in front of Congress? Very unclear. And we've also seen this kind of behavior from the administration in other affairs as well, where you have multiple conflicting narratives. It's happening with the Iran war right now, where it's not even clear to Congress what the deal is. And you have different people saying the deal is a different thing, right? So where do you think that puts us? It's great that it's happening. I understand you feel it's great that it's happening to AI right now. But does that put us in a position where it's detrimental to the body public at large? at puts us? It's great that it's happening. I understand you feel it's great that it's happening to AI right now. But does that put us in a position where it's detrimental to the body public at large? I think, you know, your analysis, you're weaving together a few factors, but I think the elephant in the room, I hate to get political because, you know, when it comes to President Trump, he's a mixed bag for me. I don't have Trump derangement syndrome. I don't love everything he does. I don't hate everything he does. But I think the common thread with Trump is it's just a mess. You know, like it's not, it's not like disciplined, right? And I think we're definitely seeing that on display right now. I would argue we're seeing that on display in the Iran war. You know, previous administrations, there was just more pressure to have logical consistency, right? Some kind of narrative. And this is another one of those cases where you see people in his administration saying all these justifications why something happened. But then the next day it's like, oh, it happened for this reason, right? Like, oh, Dario did this. You know, he wasn't responsive to us. That's why we're doing it. And then Anthropic's like, oh, no, he was responsive to us. And it's still not clear exactly what did Fable do that was so dangerous, right? Because Anthropic is like, oh, this jailbreak is nothing special. And the Trump administration is like, oh, well, you know, our secret source, Amazon or whatever, right? They're telling us that it is dangerous. So I hate that it's a clown show, right? I hate that this is how humanity is operating. I, you know, I'll take the win that it's a pause, but like I also think it's probably time for a new administration.…

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